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PERSONAL
Born in United States.
ADDRESS
CAREER
Politician and author of comic books.
WRITINGS
Author of Existence 2.0/3.0, Image Comics (Berkeley, CA), 2010; Forgetless, Image Comics (Berkeley, CA), 2010; Shuddertown, Volumes 1-4, Image Comics (Berkeley, CA), 2010; Iron Man 2.0, Volumes 1-12, Marvel Comics (New York, NY), 2011; Ultimate Comics: Fallout, Volumes 2-6, Marvel Comics (New York, NY), 2011; Ultimate Comics: X-Men, Volumes 1-12, Marvel Comics (New York, NY), 2011-2012; Infinite Vacation, Image Comics (2011-2013); Thief of Thieves, Image Comics (Berkeley, CA), 2012; Ant-Man, Volumes 1-5, Marvel Comics (New York, NY), 2015; Civil War II: The Oath, Volume 1, Marvel Comics (New York, NY), 2017.
SIDELIGHTS
Nick Spencer is most well known for his involvement in the comic book industry, having built his notoriety as a writer. He first attempted to break into the industry when he was still in college, but was turned down. After this, he spent some time in the political world, serving under the Democratic party and the Charter party. Some time later, he left politics to return to comics. He soon landed his big break with Image Comics and released his first work, Existence 2.0, in the year 2009. His other major works include the Ultimate Comics X-Men series; Existence 3.0, the sequel to Existence 2.0; Ultimate Comics Universe Reborn; Shuddertown; Iron Man 2.0; and many others.
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents: Vol. 1 centers around the efforts of the titular organization, The Higher United Nations Defense Enforcement Reserves (acronymed as T.H.U.N.D.E.R.). The full series is effectively a revival of an older title that ran from the late 1950s up to 1969. The volume focuses on a pair of agents, Toby Henston and Colleen Franklin, who are the last remaining members of the organization following a catastrophe that nearly wiped out their team entirely. They are now on the lookout for potential new recruits. However, joining the agency comes at a price that the average person would never agree to pay.
The only willing recruits Toby and Colleen are able to find are men who have committed unimaginable acts, and who are willing to suffer the price that comes with heroism if it offers them the chance to turn their lives around. Membership of the agency comes with superpowers which, while undeniably amazing, place an enormous and painful amount of strain on the wielder’s body. The first volume of this series covers both Toby and Colleen’s attempts to find new members to join them in their cause as well as what happened to the original members of T.H.U.N.D.E.R. One Publishers Weekly contributor remarked that “the plot twists are satisfying.”
"Morning Glories" series
The “Morning Glories” series takes place at a school for the young and talented, and stars six enrollees who find their lives rapidly devolving into a series of terrifying events once they’ve arrived on-campus. For starters, their lives at the school seem to have entirely replaced their identities within the outside world. Their families seem to no longer recognize them whenever they try to make contact. They were also selected to become part of the school for no discernable reason. Finally, their classmates seem to be perishing one by one in horrific ways, and their teachers are steadily proving to be in some way involved with it all as their educational methods grow increasingly hazardous. The students must realize who is an ally and who is an enemy, then band together to survive the rest of the school year as well as decipher the truth behind their unworldly situation.
Alongside the central storyline, the story also takes care to offer further glimpses into its main characters through flashbacks depicting their lives before their arrival to the school. Booklist contributor Candice Mack recommended the series “to fans of the Runaways comics, the TV show Lost, or the Hunger Games trilogy.” A reviewer in Publishers Weekly remarked: “This tale is much more than the sum of its parts.” In her subsequent review of the second volume of the series, Booklist reviewer Candice Mack commented: “Spencer and Eisma’s series continues to intrigue.”
The Fix, Vol. 1
The Fix, Vol. 1: Where Beagles Dare stars Mac and Roy, a pair of police officers who have long been on the wrong side of the law. They were previously aligned with Josh, a mafia boss and potentially their enemy if they don’t repay what they owe to him soon enough. Their plan to repay him will involve smuggling illegal drugs through the Los Angeles airport, but this task will be far from easy. They will have to contend with the expert nose of a police dog named Pretzels.
To execute their plan successfully, they may have to resort to a few drastic measures. In an issue of Publishers Weekly, one reviewer called The Fix “one of the funniest–and most satisfying–crime books of the year.”
BIOCRIT
PERIODICALS
Booklist, June 1, 2011, Candice Mack, review of Morning Glories Deluxe Edition, p. 51; January 1, 2012, Candice Mack, review of Morning Glories Deluxe Edition, p. 79.
Publishers Weekly, December 19, 2011, review of T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents: Vol. 1, p. 39; January 9, 2012, review of Morning Glories Deluxe Edition, p. 38; October 10, 2016, review of The Fix, Volume 1: Where Beagles Dare, p. 65.
ONLINE
IGN, http://www.ign.com/ (April 25, 2017), Seth G. Macy, “Marvel’s Nick Spencer on Captain America’s Betrayal and Handling Fan Reactions.”
Nick Spencer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nick Spencer
10.9.10NickSpencerByLuigiNovi.jpg
Spencer at the New York Comic Con in Manhattan, October 9, 2010
Area(s) Writer
Notable works
Morning Glories
Thief of Thieves
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents
Iron Man 2.0
Secret Avengers
Superior Foes of Spider-Man
Nick Spencer is a comic book writer. As a comic book writer, he is known for his creator-owned titles at Image Comics (Morning Glories, Thief of Thieves, Bedlam, The Fix), his work at DC Comics (Action Comics, T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents), and for his current work at Marvel Comics (Secret Avengers, Superior Foes of Spider-Man, Avengers World, Ant-Man).
Contents [hide]
1 Career
2 Bibliography
2.1 Image Comics
2.2 DC Comics
2.3 Marvel Comics
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
Career[edit]
While in college, Spencer wrote three pitches to Marvel Comics soon after the Marvel Knights imprint launched in 1998. According to Spencer, "Joe [Quesada] didn’t like the first two but the third one was a Black Cat pitch that was a Jackie Brown kind of Tarantino-esque thing. He said he liked that one but they weren’t going to do anything with anybody new at the time." After another pitch was rejected, this time by Oni Press, Spencer went on to work in politics. He twice ran for the Cincinnati City Council as a candidate of the progressive Charter Party. Spencer also worked for a Democratic politician.[1] He later moved to New York City and successfully pitched Existence 2.0 to Jim Valentino of Image Comics. The first issue was released in July 2009.[2] A second miniseries, Existence 3.0, followed in November.[3] In 2010, Paramount Pictures acquired the rights to Existence 2.0, and a film is in development through Platinum Dunes with Miles Millar and Alfred Gough to adapt and executive produce.[4] Spencer also wrote Forgetless and Shuddertown at Image.[5] An A.V. Club review of Shuddertown stated that Spencer "has become one of the finest practitioners" of crime noir in comics.[6]
Spencer's first ongoing series, Morning Glories, was released in August 2010.[5] He has written a seven-part Jimmy Olsen co-feature for DC Comics beginning in September 2010's Action Comics #893 which will conclude in a one-shot[7] to be released March 30, 2011 and is writing the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents monthly debuting in November 2010.[5] He was scheduled to take over as the writer of Supergirl in January 2011 with issue #60,[8] but DC announced soon after that he will only be co-scripting one issue.[9] Spencer is writing Iron Man 2.0, a new War Machine ongoing for Marvel Comics which debuted in February 2011.[10] Spencer will also be taking over writing duties on Secret Avengers from Ed Brubaker as of #13.[11] It was announced at the Emerald City Comic Con that Spencer has signed an exclusive contract with Marvel, although he will be allowed to continue writing his existing titles at both DC and Image.[12]
Spencer is one of three writers that worked on "Ultimate Comics Universe Reborn", a relaunch of Marvel Comics' Ultimate Marvel line, along with Jonathan Hickman and Brian Michael Bendis. Spencer wrote Ultimate Comics X-Men.[13]
Bibliography[edit]
Image Comics[edit]
Existence 2.0/3.0 #1-3, #1-4 (with Joe Eisma, 2009-2010) collected as Existence 2.0/3.0 (tpb, 144 pages, 2010, ISBN 1-6070-6299-2)
Forgetless #1-5 (with Scott Forbes, Jorge Coelho and Marley Zarcone, 2009–2010) collected as Forgetless (tpb, 128 pages, 2010, ISBN 1-6070-6361-1)
Shuddertown #1-4 (with Adam Geen, 2010) collected as Shuddertown (hc, 128 pages, 2010, ISBN 1-6070-6943-1)
Fractured Fables: Cinderella (with Rodin Esquejo, 2010) collected in Fractured Fables (hc, 160 pages, 2010, ISBN 1-6070-6269-0; tpb, 2012, ISBN 1-6070-6496-0)
Morning Glories (with Joe Eisma, 2010–present) collected as:
For a Better Future (collects #1–6, tpb, 192 pages, 2011, ISBN 1-60706-307-7)
All Will Be Free (collects #7-12, tpb, 168 pages, 2011, ISBN 1-60706-407-3)
P.E. (collects #13-19, tpb, 240 pages, 2012, ISBN 1-60706-558-4)
Truants (collects #20–25, tpb, 216 pages, 2013, ISBN 1-60706-727-7)
Tests (collects #26–29, tpb, 136 pages, 2013, ISBN 1-60706-774-9)
Demerits (collects #30–34, tpb, 144 pages, 2013, ISBN 1-60706-774-9)
Honors (collects #35–38, tpb, 124 pages, 2014, ISBN 1-6070-6943-1)
Infinite Vacation #1-5 (with Christian Ward, 2011–2013) collected as Infinite Vacation (hc, 191 pages, 2013, ISBN 1-6070-6721-8)
Thief of Thieves (with Robert Kirkman and Shawn Martinbrough, 2012) collected as:
I Quit (collects #1-7, 152 pages, 2012, ISBN 1-6070-6592-4)
Bedlam (with Riley Rossmo and Ryan Browne, 2012–present) collected as:
Volume 1 (collects #1–6, tpb, 184 pages, 2013, ISBN 1-6070-6735-8)
Volume 2 (collects #7–11, tpb, 120 pages, 2014, ISBN 1-6070-6846-X)
The Fix
Where Beagles Dare (collects #1–4, tpb, 2016, ISBN 1-6321-5912-0)
Laws, Paws, and Flaws (collects #5–8, tpb, 2017, ISBN 1-5343-0048-1)
DC Comics[edit]
Superman
Action Comics #893-896: "Jimmy Olsen" (with RB Silva, 2010) collected as Jimmy Olsen (one-shot, 71 pages, 2011)
Supergirl #60 (with James Peaty and Bernard Chang, 2011) collected in Volume 10: Good Looking Corpse (tpb, 176 pages, 2011, ISBN 1-4012-3252-3)
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents (with CAFU, Howard Porter, Adriana Melo, Livesay, Norman Lee, Howard Chaykin and George Pérez, 2010-2012) collected as:
Volume 1 (collects v1 #1-10, tpb, 160 pages, 2011, ISBN 1-4012-3254-X)
Volume 2 (collects v2 #1-6)
Marvel Comics[edit]
Iron Man 2.0 #1-12 (February 2011-December 2011)
Palmer Addley is Dead (tpb, 176 pages, 2011, ISBN 0-7851-4749-7) collects:
"Palmer Addley is Dead" (with Barry Kitson and Ariel Olivetti, in #1-4, 2011)
"Fear Itself!" (with Ariel Olivetti, Carmine Di Giandomenico and Matthew Wilson in #5-7, 2011)
Asymmetry (tpb, 128 pages, 2012, ISBN 0-7851-4751-9) collects:
"Untitled" (with Kano, in #7.1, 2011)
The Palmer Addley Infection" (with Joshua Hale Fialkov, Will Pfeifer, Ariel Olivetti, Carmine Di Giandomenico, Mirco Pierfederici, Neil Edwards and Jesus Aburtov, in #8-12, 2011)
Avengers
Secret Avengers vol. 1 #12.1-15 (April 2011-July 2011)
Fear Itself (tpb, 120 pages, 2012, ISBN 0-7851-5178-8) collects:
"Untitled" (with Scott Eaton, in #12.1, 2011)
"Fear Itself" (with Scot Eaton, in #13-15, 2011)
Secret Avengers vol. 2 #1-16 (February 2013-February 2014)
Volume 1: Reverie (tpb, 120 pages, 2013, ISBN 0-7851-6688-2) collects:
"NYSE" (with Luke Ross, in Marvel NOW! Point One, 2012)
"Budapest" (with Luke Ross, in #1, 2013)
"Bagalia" (with Luke Ross, in #2, 2013)
"Arlington" (with Luke Ross, in #3, 2013)
"Tehran" (with Luke Ross, in #4, 2013)
"Barbuda" (with Luke Ross, in #5, 2013)
Volume 2: Iliad (tpb, 136 pages, 2014, ISBN 0-7851-6689-0) collects:
"Iliad" (with Butch Guice, Steve Epting and Brian Thies, in #6-7, 2013)
"The Cathedral" (with Luke Ross, in #8, 2013)
"Lexington" (with Butch Guice, in #9, 2013)
"Infinity" (written by Ed Brisson and drawn by Luke Ross, in #10-11, 2013)
Volume 3: How to MA.I.M. a Mockingbird (tpb, 112 pages, 2014, ISBN 0-7851-8482-1) collects:
"How to MA.I.M. a Mockingbird" (with Ales Kot, Butch Guice and Luke Ross, in #12-16, 2013-2014)
Avengers vol. 5 #12-17 (May 2013-August 2013)
Volume 3: Prelude to Infinity (hc, 152 pages, 2013, ISBN 0-7851-6825-7)
"Evolve" (with Jonathan Hickman and Mike Deodato, in #12, 2013)
"Strong" (with Jonathan Hickman and Mike Deodato, in #13, 2013)
"The Signal" (with Jonathan Hickman and Stefano Caselli, in #14, 2013)
"Sent and Received" (with Jonathan Hickman and Stefano Caselli, in #15, 2013)
"To The End" (with Jonathan Hickman and Stefano Caselli, in #16, 2013)
"... To the Light" (with Jonathan Hickman and Stefano Caselli, Marco Rudy and Marco Checchetto, in #17, 2013)
Avengers World #1-16 (with Jonathan Hickman, Stefano Caselli, Marco Checchetto, Raffaele Ienco and Frank Barbiere, January 2014–December 2014)
Volume 1: A.I.M.PIRE (collects #1-5, tpb, 120 pages, 2014, ISBN 0-7851-8981-5)
Volume 2: Ascension (collects #6-9, tpb, 120 pages, 2014, ISBN 0-7851-9094-5)
Volume 3: Next World (collects #10-16, tpb, 160 pages, 2015, ISBN 0-7851-9251-4)
Ultimate Comics: Fallout #2-6 (with Lee Garbett, Eric Nguyen, Clayton Crain and Luke Ross, 2011) collected as Ultimate Comics: Fallout (hc, 136 pages, 2011, ISBN 0-7851-5912-6; tpb, 2012, ISBN 0-7851-5913-4)
Ultimate Comics: X-Men #1-12 (with Paco Medina and Carlo Barberi, 2011-2012)
Volume 1 (collects #1-6, tpb, 136 pages, 2012, ISBN 0-7851-4102-2)
Volume 2 (collects #7-12, tpb, 136 pages, 2013, ISBN 0-7851-6134-1)
Spider-Man
Spider-Island: Cloak & Dagger #1-3 (with Emma Rios, 2011) collected in Spider-Man: Spider-Island Companion (tpb, 360 pages, 2012, ISBN 0-7851-6229-1)
Superior Foes of Spider-Man #1-17 (with Steve Lieber, Rich Ellis and other artists, July 2013–November 2014)
Getting the Band Back Together (collects #1-6, tpb, 136 pages, 2014, ISBN 0-7851-8494-5)
The Crime of the Century (collects #7-12, tpb, 112 pages, 2014, ISBN 0-7851-8495-3)
Game Over (collects #13-17, tpb, 136 pages, 2015, ISBN 0-7851-9170-4)
Ant-Man
Ant-Man #1-5 (January 2015-May 2015)
Volume 1: Second-Chance Man (tpb, 120 pages, 2015, ISBN 0-7851-9387-1) collects:
"Second-Chance Man" (with Ramón Rosanas, in #1-5, 2015)
Astonishing Ant-Man #1-?? (with Ramón Rosanas, October 2015-??)
Volume 1: Everybody Loves Team-Ups (tpb, 144 pages, 2016, ISBN 0-7851-9948-9) collects:
"Ant-Man Annual" #1 (with Ramón Rosanas and Brent Schoonover, July 2015)
"Ant-Man: Last Days" (with Ramón Rosanas, August 2015)
#1-4 (with Ramón Rosanas, 2015-2016)
Volume 2: Small-Time Criminal #5-9 (with Ramón Rosanas, Annapaola Martello and Brent Schoonover, tpb, 112 pages, 2016, ISBN 0-7851-9949-7)
Captain America
Captain America: Sam Wilson #1-?? (October 2015-??)
Volume 1: Not My Captain America #1-6 (with Daniel Acuña, Mike Choi, Paul Renaud and Joe Bennett, tpb, 136 pages, 2016, ISBN 0-7851-9640-4)
Avengers: Standoff! (hc, 416 pages, 2016, ISBN 1-3029-0147-8) collects:
"Avengers Standoff: Welcome to Pleasant Hill" (with Mark Bagley, 2016)
"Avengers Standoff: Assault On Pleasant Hill Alpha" (with Jesús Saiz, 2016)
#7-8 (with Daniel Acuña, Ángel Unzueta and Paul Renaud, 2016)
"Avengers Standoff: Assault On Pleasant Hill Omega" (with Daniel Acuña and Ángel Unzueta, 2016)
Volume 3: Civil War II #9-13 (with Ángel Unzueta and Daniel Acuña, tpb, 112 pages, 2017, ISBN 1-3029-0319-5)
Captain America: Steve Rogers #1-?? (May 2016-??)
Volume 1: Hail Hydra #1-6 (with Jesús Saiz and Javier Pina, tpb, 168 pages, 2016, ISBN 1-3029-0112-5)
Civil War II: The Oath #1 (January 2017)
Notes[edit]
Jump up ^ Rich Johnston (2010-10-13). "Nick Spencer – Politics, Business… Oh, And Comics Too - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News". Bleedingcool.com. Retrieved 2015-10-22.
Jump up ^ Callan, Jonathan (2009-06-15). "Image's New "Existence"". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-08.
Jump up ^ Wigler, Josh (2009-10-29). "Nick Spencer's 'Existence 3.0'". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-08.
Jump up ^ Nemiroff, Perri (2010-03-16). "Paramount To Adapt The Comic Existence 2.0". Cinema Blend. Retrieved 2010-10-18.
^ Jump up to: a b c Ching, Albert (2010-08-03). "Nick Spencer Takes Readers to School with 'Morning Glories'". Newsarama. Retrieved 2010-08-08.
Jump up ^ Handlen, Zack; Heller, Jason; Murray, Noel; Phipps, Keith; Pierce, Leonard; Robinson, Tasha (2010-03-26). "Comics Panel". The A.V. Club (The Onion). Retrieved 2010-08-08.
Jump up ^ Melrose, Kevin (2010-10-09). "NYCC '10 | DiDio addresses fate of Jimmy Olsen, other DC co-features - Robot 6 @ Comic Book ResourcesRobot 6 @ Comic Book Resources". Robot6.comicbookresources.com. Retrieved 2015-10-22.
Jump up ^ DCE Editorial (2010-10-08). "NYCC 2010: Meet your new SUPERGIRL creative team | DC Comics". Dcu.blog.dccomics.com. Retrieved 2015-10-22.
Jump up ^ DCE Editorial (2010-12-15). "A few teases for the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents fans | DC Comics". Dcu.blog.dccomics.com. Retrieved 2015-10-22.
Jump up ^ "War Machine Gets an IRON MAN 2.0 Upgrade From Nick Spencer". Newsarama.com. 2010-10-20. Retrieved 2015-10-22.
Jump up ^ [1] Archived August 23, 2011, at the Wayback Machine.
Jump up ^ [2][dead link]
Jump up ^ "Kaare Andrews Covers Marvel's Ultimate Relaunch". Comic Book Resources.com. 2011-05-17. Retrieved 2011-05-29.
References[edit]
Arrant, Chris (2009-06-23). "Existential Comics: Talking to the Creators of Existence 2.0". Newsarama. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Wigler, Josh (2009-09-29). "Nick Spencer Wants You To Remember Forgetless". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Arrant, Chris (2009-12-29). "Creator Nick Spencer Hopes You Remember Image's Forgetless". Newsarama. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Wigler, Josh (2010-01-22). "Visiting Spencer's Shuddertown". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Wigler, Josh (2010-04-12). "Nick Spencer's Thriving Existence". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Renaud, Jeffrey (2010-07-19). "Spencer Reloads T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Mahadeo, Kevin (2010-07-20). "Spencer Takes "Action" with Jimmy Olsen". Comic Book Resources. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Ching, Albert (2010-08-03). "Nick Spencer Takes Readers to School with Morning Glories". Newsarama. Retrieved 2010-08-09.
Ching, Albert (2010-09-22). "Jimmy Olsen, Chloe Sullivan, Nick Spencer and Action Comics". Newsarama. Retrieved 2010-09-29.
External links[edit]
Nick Spencer at the Comic Book DB
Political campaign website
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Preceded by
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CAPTAIN AMERICA: STEVE ROGERS #1 / 25 APR 2017
MARVEL'S NICK SPENCER ON CAPTAIN AMERICA'S BETRAYAL AND HANDLING FAN REACTIONS
Share. "The ultimate betrayal."
BY SETH G. MACY You don't even need to follow comics closely to know all is not right with Captain America. The stalwart hero of Americanism betrayed his allies in the Marvel Universe in a twist at the end of Captain America: Steve Rogers #1 by revealing himself to be a secret agent of Hydra.
While it was revealed that this was caused by the Red Skull using a sentient Cosmic Cube known as Kobik to re-write Cap's reality to be a Hydra loyalist from childhood, the fact remains that Cap is now the leader of an evil terrorist group that flies in the face of everything he stands for, something that hasn't been sitting well with some fans. Writer Nick Spencer told IGN in an interview that he was aware of how passionate fans are about the character, which is why the twist earned such a big reaction.
"Captain America is the most trusted and revered figure in the Marvel Universe," Spencer told us. But Cap's unflinching trustworthiness goes beyond just the fictional Marvel Universe, and his standing resonates with readers, too. Spencer said seeing Captain America turn to the side of Hydra "is the ultimate betrayal" for the audience, as well.
To say fans are upset is almost an understatement, especially given the fact that in the minds of many people, Hydra is synonymous with Nazis.
Spencer said while they're both "very evil, and villainous," Hydra is not a Nazi organization. But they'll "happily partner with Nazis or anyone else," so long as it helps them reach their ultimate goals. As the story plays out, Spencer said, people will see Steve Rogers' view of Hydra is "something fairly distinct."
Captain America's Hydra Twist Gets a Comic Book Trailer
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When asked if his run on Captain America was influenced by, or a reflection of America's current political climate, Spencer said they'd been planning this story since 2015.
He explained when it comes to writing, the goal is long-term, "to make sure they're stories people can read 20, 30 years down the road and they'll still have some relevance to their lives."
He said his team is tries to go "big picture in the kind of message we were trying to send." And part of that big picture is shaking up what fans expect.
When it comes to beloved characters, Spencer said "creators are always going to be putting them through extreme adversity." He said that even though people think they want to see the tried and true heroism of their favorite characters repeated each issue, "the reality of it is it wouldn't be very exciting."
"Making you emotionally invested and involved and at times, angry, and afraid and upset, that's just part of our job as story tellers."
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krrl MAY 8 2017 11AM
What a bright guy! I really enjoyed listening to that - thank you IGN, and Nick!
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PhuriousP APR 30 2017 1PM
Sure. Double-down on Hydra Cap. Kill Cyclops, Wolverine, etc. Make the everyman Spiderman a jet-setting billionaire. Replace everyone's favorite heroes with characters that were introduced 4 issues ago and havent earned their cred yet (and blame it on 'bigoted fanboys adverse to diversity). Keep shaping hollow stories to grab press headlines instead of, yknow, telling good stories. Keep wondering why your sales are in the crapper, Marvel. Keep wondering....
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TyrellArcher258 APR 27 2017 7PM
I find it incredibly frustrating that so many "fans" are taking issue with this story. It's been clear since Cap's 2nd issue (current series) that Cap's new history is artifical, not a retcon. There are people who are equating this with Marvel being insensitive to the victims of Nazis, or worse, as Nazi sympathizers. That's an amazingly ignorant point of view. Hydra aren't specifically Nazis, though they have been allied with them and even led by Nazi leaders like The Red Skull. But even if they were, not once has Marvel suggested that they were the heroes. Not once has Nick Spencer made it seem like we should be following Hydra because Cap is their leader now.
This isn't just any comic story. This is a story that needs to be told, especially today. It's the story of someone who was trustworthy enough, and more significantly, popular enough, who is given unprecedented power, and reveals his true face once secured in office. Remind anyone of anything? Nixon? Trump? Harper? (For us Canadians.)
George Lucas told this story, too. While the whole Star Wars saga is about this message (among others), Episode III specifically dealt with the exact same story, with Palpatine (secretly Darth Sidious) in the same role as Steve Rogers (secretly the Supreme Hydra). At the time, many people commented that Episode III was similar to what they were seeing in the Bush administration at the time. Lucas responded by saying that the story had been written 30 years ago, but wasn't it interesting that the comparison was made?
That's why we need stories like this. We need to remember what happens when someone is given supreme power. We need to remember that our freedom is not something we can take for granted, and assume will be there forever. We need to fight for it, every day. We need to stop the Palpatines and (brainwashed) Rogers, the Nixons, and the Trumps, and the Harpers, and lead our respective nations, not be bullied into letting someone else do it for us because we're afraid. That's why this story needs to be told. That's why we all need to read this, and remember to fight for our freedom.
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albannach APR 26 2017 11AM
'The ultimate betrayal' is to the fans. I can't wait for this crappy retcon is itself retconned.
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BloodborneLore APR 26 2017 2AM
1610 Cap > 616 Cap.
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XX01011000 APR 26 2017 2PM
@BloodborneLore
Considering 1610 Cap doesn't exist, 616 Cap wins.
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BloodborneLore APR 26 2017 2PM
@XX01011000 What do you mean? Neither of them do. They're fictional characters.
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BloodborneLore APR 26 2017 2PM
Are you trying to say he's based off of an actual person? Lol. Who told you that? :)
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XX01011000 APR 26 2017 2PM
@BloodborneLore
In continuity... *facepalm*
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XX01011000 APR 26 2017 2PM
@BloodborneLore
Um, no. smh
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 2AM
@XX01011000 Well, you're an idiot because neither of them exist.
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 6AM
@BloodborneLore
Careful. What you say and the way you say it is a reflection of yourself.
One Captain America exists in continuity and guess what, it's not your preferred choice of the two.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 8AM
@XX01011000 What about Ultimate Marvel continuity? He exists in that.
What about mythology? Does God of War continue Greek mythology or does it not?
WTH are you chattin about, man? They're fictional characters. The Bible was written in the second century and yet more than 70% of American still believe in gods and demons for fuxake. Just how bad has it gotten over there? Lol
616 Cap doesn't exist anymore than 1610 Cap. :/
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 8AM
@BloodborneLore
Attention to detail. Notice the part where I said, "in continuity." Current Marvel continuity does not include the Ultimate Marvel Universe. The Ultimate Marvel Universe was removed from existence as a result of Secret Wars in 2015/2016. 1610 Captain America has not existed in continuity for more than a year now. You not knowing that is a key indicator that you are not knowledgeable regarding the current status of the Marvel Universe.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 8AM
@XX01011000 Scroll up one post. You missed all my replies regarding continuity. Try again. Talk about attention to detail, eh? :)
As is stands... 616 Captain America exists only 616 comic book continuity and 1610 Captain America exists only in 1610 comic book continuity. Neither of them actually exist though. As long as you're aware of that and I'm not having a discussion with 5 year old.
PS: I know the UU ended with Sectet Wars (2015).
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 9AM
@BloodborneLore
I haven't missed anything. You addressed separate and different continuities that don't operate in the present or that are not current. Greek mythology, even if it were alternatively updated recently in a videogame franchise, and Christian mythology are continuities that exist in the past. They are not current continuities whatsoever. On top of that, both are finite continuities, meaning they have a beginning, a middle, and an end. The Marvel Universe is not finite as it is ongoing. It is a present day serial continuity. If you don't understand the difference and the distinction between past or previous finite continuities and an ongoing present day serial continuity then maybe you are the ignorant 5 year old in this scenario. The Ultimate Marvel Universe and as such the 1610 Captain America does not presently exist in the current continuity of the Marvel Universe. That has been my whole point all along and I have mostly been joking about it up to now. I'm unsure why you seem to be getting so bent out of shape about the whole situation.
Edit: You edited your post and I wanted to respond to your edits.
"As is stands... 616 Captain America exists only 616 comic book continuity and 1610 Captain America exists only in 1610 comic book continuity."
Nope. You're wrong. 616 exists, 1610 doesn't. 616 Cap exists, 1610 Cap doesn't... In continuity. The current Marvel Universe (which used to be the Earth-616 Marvel Universe) exists as the Prime Marvel Universe now, while the Fantastic Four's Reed Richards and family are rebuilding the multiverse. As of the resolution to Secret Wars, Earth-1610 The Ultimate Marvel Universe has not existed and until that universe is rebuilt in the multiverse and addressed in the current continuity of the Marvel Universe through one of its titles, it remainds in a status of non-existence.
"PS: I know the UU ended with Sectet Wars (2015)."
This directly conflicts with your previous quote. Both concepts cannot exist at the same time, it's paradoxical. The Ultimate Marvel Universe either exists or it doesn't, and presently... To the knowledge of the Marvel Universe's current continuity, it doesn't.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 9AM
@XX01011000 The Bible is an accumulation of theistic text than existed literally thousands of years prior and your explanation for your reasoning is that it's more finite than Marvel Comics, an American company in a nation that's no more than a few hundred years old? I'm sorry but that's pretty stupid. Nothing lasts forever.
You keep failing to address my points so I'm sorry for repeating myself but Ultimate Captain America is still present in UU/1610 continuity. It might not be running anymore but that doesn't mean 616 Cap exists and Ultimate Cap doesn't. You could apply that to any fictional character so of course it's a moot argument.
Ultimate Cap "exists" just as much as the other.
I could say... Sean Connery Bond > Daniel Craig Bond...
... and then you'd come in talking about a fictional character's existence.
Do you have any understanding of how juvenile that sounds??
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 10AM
@BloodborneLore
No problem. Sorry for trying to joke around with you. Won't happen again.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 10AM
@XX01011000 Ultimate Cap is the Don. ;)
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 10AM
@BloodborneLore
...to you, in your opinion.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 10AM
@XX01011000 He farts in 616 Cap's face. :P
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 10AM
@BloodborneLore
Now who's the juvenile and being childish? Here's a hint: You are.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 10AM
@XX01011000 Uh wuh duh nuh man he dunt existh. Thix one thix Cap exisths tho. ;)
You think I'm not doing it on purpose?
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 11AM
@BloodborneLore
My first guess was right. I thought from your original post that you may have been a bit of a tasteless c*nt. From your subsequent participation throughout this discussion, that has been undeniably confirmed. Turns out you're a huge one. Good luck with that.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 11AM
@XX01011000 Man, I got great taste in a lot of things. I really do. I know, it's a bit bias coming from me. Opinions! :)
Ultimate Cap is badass though. Makes the original look like a pansy. ;)
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 12PM
@BloodborneLore
What are the differences between the two characters and why do you like Ultimate Cap better?
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 12PM
@XX01011000 See, now we can chat properly.
He's rougher and tougher. He took down Ultimate War Machine pretty easily. Despite his badassery, his old school values are very human and show interesting moral understanding. He's ignorant and his continuity is always very aware of that. But he has a heart of gold and I mean Solid Gold. His awkward romance with Janet was emotional and felt very real. Mark Millar wrote the BEST man out of time story. The Ultimates is one of my favourite superhero comics. I can't recommend it highly enough. I'm not American and I'm certainly not patriotic but as a reader, one cannot help but have a man-crush on the bastard. He's awesome.
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BloodborneLore APR 27 2017 12PM
@XX01011000 See, now we can chat properly.
He's rougher and tougher. He took down Ultimate War Machine pretty easily. Despite his badassery, his old school values are very human and show interesting moral understanding. He's ignorant and his continuity is always very aware of that. But he has a heart of gold and I mean Solid Gold. His awkward romance with Janet was emotional and felt very real. Mark Millar wrote the BEST man out of time story. The Ultimates is one of my favourite superhero comics. I can't recommend it highly enough. I'm not American and I'm certainly not patriotic but as a reader, one cannot help but have a man-crush on the b@stard. He's like John McClain. He's awesome.
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XX01011000 APR 27 2017 1PM
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1610 Cap is down and dirty. 616 Cap is fluid and precise. While I agree with your assessment of who and what 1610 Cap is and stands for, I also think that 1610 Cap would lose in a competition/conflict of any kind with 616 Cap. 616 Cap is more strategic and more of a consummate tactician. They both have an equivalent knowledge and skill in terms of hand to hand and other forms of combat but their approaches are different. 1610 Cap may be more aggressive or even brutal at times but 616 Cap is more intelligent in his approach and uses his opponent's weaknesses against them. 1610 Cap would try to just briute force 616 Cap and 616 Cap would use anything and everything he knows about 1610 Cap to get in his head, beating him both mentally and physically. 1610 Cap has a more bad@ss approach and demeanor but 616 Cap will humbly beat any and all by any means necessary through his stategic mindset and flawless execution. Just something to think about.
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BloodborneLore APR 28 2017 7AM
@XX01011000 That sounds like you're trying to describe Batman. But with more acrobatic combat (like Nightwing). It would actually be a sufficient way to describe a lot of characters.
They seriously missed out on telling a great man out of time story with 616 Cap. But I suppose he couldn't have been in the ice for any more than 20 years and he's probably spent more time out of the ice now then he has in it, hence his quick adjustment to modern living.
Ultimate Cap is ignorant but you can't blame him for that. Whereas look at how unwaveringly patriotic is 616 Cap. It's just arrogant. The war on oil, the twin towers, Vietnam, drone strikes on innocent children... he's blind to all of it.
His mentality isn't all that different to a lot of 616 characters now. Viking mentality. Surely they must all understand by now how trivial life and death is in their universe?They must know that it doesn't mean much for beings such as themselves. Original Wolverine is probably enjoying a well deserved vacation and the characters MUST know that. It's why they're always waging wars with one another, even willing to murder their own long-time friends and team mates just to satisfy their own egos. The 616 Earth now belongs to thousands of superpowerered individuals. And yet there are still millions of children on that Earth that can't even get a sip of clean water, despite the fact that there's Storm, Magma and Zero who could clearly do a lot for humanity's resources.
If 616 Cap is so smart, why hasn't he changed anything. He acts as dumb and as arrogant as the rest of them. Self-entitlement and patriotism completely blinds him from seeing the reality of innocent bloodshed. It makes sense that all these 616 characters would become maladjusted to their environment in this way. It makes a lot of sense, but that doesn't mean I like it.
Character development is what makes 1610's Cap the Ultimate Captain America. He's fully realised. I don't think Superman is a better character than Captain America because he's more capable of winning battles. That doesn't mean much in superhero comics. When there aren't anymore bad guys for Superman to fight, he goes and beats up his little cousin. Is it Kryptonian Pride like Saiyan Pride in DBZ? It's interesting to say the least, I don't know why more writer don't look into the psychology of all these iconic characters. There are fantastic stories for character development to be found here.
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XX01011000 APR 28 2017 8AM
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When Cap and Batman fought, it was a draw because they were so equally knowledgeable and balanced in their abilities. You wrote a lot to absorb. Maybe I'll just hit a few points.
"Whereas look at how unwaveringly patriotic is 616 Cap. It's just arrogant. The war on oil, the twin towers, Vietnam, drone strikes on innocent children... he's blind to all of it."
You may have a different perspective than most. Captain America is not blindly patriotic. He has been affected by nearly if not all of the things you've listed and he is constantly re-evaluating America, principles, ethics, and values. Cap is a symbol that represents the dream of America. He best represents America's most important ideals. Cap may have been blindly patriotic early in his career but he has grown beyond such a perspective through various incidents and character development. His first conflict with the Secret Empire in the 70s took a major toll on him because the President of the United States was a corrupt agent of the Secret Empire. Cap found out a high ranking US official assumed to be the President was the Secret Empire's Number One when he was dismasked in the White House just before the man took his own life in front of Cap rather than being brought to justice, it shook Cap to his core. Talk about character development. He quit being Captain America for a while before finding his way back to the position. That was the specific incident that prevents Captain America from ever being blindly patriotic again. Beyond that, there have been several other incidents that challenge Cap to evaluate his morals and values. It happens all the time.
You went on to talk about how Cap and or other heroes could improve lives through societal efforts and while that is true, that is not his/their mission or purpose for a very important reason. For example, if superpowered people or superheroes started to act to solve the problems of society, then that society could or would become dependent upon those individuals and that could be dangerous. Corruption could set in. The superheroes could become corrupt or power hungry and take advantage of society by manipulating, exploiting, or even basically conquering it. Civilization needs to work on the problems of poverty, access to water, hunger, and all the other problems of the world while superheroes act as a final defense against the greater threats of supervillains, alien invasions, and any other types of threats that are beyond those of the average human being. Average human beings need to solve society's problems while superheroes solve the greater threats that average human beings could never solve. Hopefully, that makes sense to you and provides a better perspective for the purpose behind the existence of superheroes.
"Character development is what makes 1610's Cap the Ultimate Captain America. He's fully realised."
To say that 1610 Cap is fully realized begs the question, "is anyone truly fully realized?" 616 Cap is a more complete human being than 1610 Cap is and I wouldn't say that 616 Cap is fully realized. Any and every character in fiction is a reflection of reality in the same manner that we as human beings are always learning and developing. Not many individuals reach the level of being fully realized as being fully realized means to achieve one's fullest potential, as if there is an end point in capability or capacity regarding living life. In a world of constant improvement, does anyone ever truly reach or achieve full realization or their full potential?
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BloodborneLore APR 28 2017 3PM
@XX01011000 Captain America is a super soldier though. Batman hasn't received any biological enhancements.
I don't see how they can float in the sky with folded arms and let corruption ensue. They're not angels in Heaven looking down with indifference. Whereas the best written heroes are cursed with altruism. They are our moral guidance. If you have the power to make a difference, it is your responsibility to do so. This is how comics and their humanistic understanding succeeds farther than religious understanding ever will.
Superman sits in an office all day earning a decent income even though he doesn't need food or water to sustain himself. He sits at his desk whilst his government systematically drone strike brown children throughout the planet and he doesn't put a stop to it. Interpret it however way you like, it is what it is.
You say that average human beings should solve society's problems except all the money belongs to the corrupt... and Tony Stark who should be making investments in Human Resources instead of trying to utilise the arms race to control the distribution of human resources. Monetary incentive is a selfish incentive where one thinks about accumulating digits in their bank account to sustain the lifestyle of their family for many generations. What makes you think they'll make a difference? What makes you think they can? What makes you think they even want to? Money works for those who have it. If it works for them, they're not going to argue whether it's right or wrong.
These are powerful governments with the most expensive military force human history has ever witnessed and you think it's up to the public to stop those forces? Who do you think owns the most advanced military technology in the world? These are purely financial and governmental problems. They don't care about the public.
When I mentioned fully realised characters, I meant that they have flaws and that the writers are aware of them and how/why they exist. I don't mind characters being ignorant but writers should have a better understanding of their characters and why they are the way they are.
American values? You mean like arguing the legality of abortion as though we're still stuck in the 1960's? Where nearly 70% the public still believe in gods and demons? Why would a Krytonian side with a country like that? Because he landed there? Clearly, his moral values are distorted but I do understand how the mind adjusts to it's environment so it certainly makes sense to the character. Same applies to 616 Cap. What I really dislike though is that half the time he speaks he sounds like an American politician. And you're only going to believe in that bullsh*t if you're American. To the rest of the world it's just nationalistic bias and patriotic nonsense.
Most of the 616 characters have Viking mentality. If they die in battle, of course, they must understand by now how trivial life and death is to beings such as themselves. They all come back eventually. And just think about how many Marvel "wars" we've had this past decade. Of course they're not going to solve the financial agendas that justify the horrors of war to warmongers. The 616 Marvel heroes absolutely love war. They probably can't wait to have another.
Have some perspective, innit. Imagine being in their shoes. They live for battle. Warrior's Pride. This is what happens to soldiers even without the trivial matter of life and death in which the fictional Marvel superheroes face everyday.
It's a world where consequence hardly matters. Hence why most of it's characters act like dickheads.
It's fine to say, "I like this character because he can do this" but that doesn't mean they're well developed.
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XX01011000 APR 28 2017 6PM
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It's fiction and the non-superhero population in comic books reflects the reality of our world and universe. If superheroes fixed all the problems, that ends comic books or takes them to a place that no longer reflects reality.
I think you are taking certain philosophies regarding the potential means of fixing the world's problems and projecting them onto comic book superhero fiction. Philosophy is fine but the real world rejects ideals, morals, ethics, and principles because the entire system, the multitude of systems designed by human beings to run the world are broken, corrupt, or worse... Because the vast majority of human beings are flawed to the point of being broken, corrupt, or worse themselves. Everything about our culture in society is a reflection of the people that populate that society.
In an ideal world there is no monetary system and every human's needs are met through meritocracy and cooperation rather than competition. What I've described would be rejected by the vast majority of the world in reality. The masses are kept ignorant by the wealthy and the ruling classes. The systems currently in place to organize and run the world are not made to be equal or fair no matter who claims they are. The systems that currently run the world are designed by human beings and are a reflection of the flaws of every human being who exists in those systems.
Any other happy subjects to discuss? lol
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BloodborneLore APR 28 2017 6PM
@XX01011000 That would not end superhero comics because superhero stories never attempt to solve the problems people face in reality. At best, we have Peter Parker during his college days. They're essentially about superheroes fighting super-villains. The stories wouldn't end. They're about physical and supernatural battles of the extraordinary. They're about conflict. And what makes conflict work so well in stories is consequence. Something which now means very little in modern superhero comics from Marvel and DC. As a reader you find yourself thinking, "what's the point?" Where's the tragedy or the sense of peril/danger for these beloved characters? Where's the sacrifice? You're from a country where most people who live there believe in the story of Jesus Christ. It completely distorts how the American public perceive what sacrifice is. If he rose from death three days later then how is that a sacrifice? It's just more "I believe what I choose to believe" nonsense.
The JLA fighting Darksied or the Avengers fighting Thanos or the FF fighting Galactus. Hard Sci-Fi, high concept fantasy, space exploration, pushing ideas to their boundaries; that's what superhero stories are about. They're not about trying to solve political issues or protecting children from fascist governments.
You said it yourself, 616 Captain America is an American symbol. And symbols are for the symbol minded.
He sounds like an American politician and repeats their bullshit so often, he comes across as a robot stuck on the same settings. What's that all about?
A child can't get a sip of water and you think those with the power to change tings for the better somehow shouldn't? That completely goes against altruism and humanistic understanding.
After all, encouraging people to go to war is how superhero fiction began.
This mentality is then reflected in it's characters. It makes perfect sense. Battle of what they live for.
Like I said, superhero stories are about conflict.
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Spartan40 APR 26 2017 12AM
Garbage like this is exactly why I stopped reading Marvel comics. Hydra is synonymous with the Nazis and hatred. Captain America stands for hope, strength and truth. He just does the right thing because of his unwavering sense of justice. This isn't it captain America. This is pure trash! . Mr. Spencer is entitled to his wrong opinion, just like I'm entitled to not support it with my wallet.
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XX01011000 APR 26 2017 1AM
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Someone hasn't read the story.
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gammarayjonas APR 26 2017 10AM
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Well, I have read Secret Empire #0, and it's not very good. For starters, it's an event comic, so the story is rushed. These event stories always have a good concept, but the execution always stinks. Then you have to take in the fact that two Jewish kids created Captain America to be a symbol of the greatest parts of American ideals, and now he's a Nazi (and don't give me that "Hydra's not Nazis" bull; Hydra has been a stand in for Nazis for a long time at Marvel.) Cap is their character, and they can do whatever they want with him. I would read an evil Cap storyline, but giving it to us in this vapid, superfluous and sacrilegious form is a slap in the face, mainly to Jack Kirby and Joe Simon.
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XX01011000 APR 26 2017 1PM
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Sounds like you haven't read Captain America Steve Rogers but have formulated an opinion despite not having read it and went into reading Secret Empire #0 with a pretty strong bias against the Agent of Hydra Cap anyway.
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TyrellArcher258 APR 27 2017 7PM
@XX01011000 @gammarayjonas @Spartan40 That's probably true, because Secret Empire #0 was pretty damn good. It's the first time in ages I have felt truly engaged in a Marvel event, and as a dyed in the wool Marvel fanboy, that's saying something.
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icyhugs APR 28 2017 5AM
The concept of making Cap a Hydra which equals to Nazi is an abomination and disgrace to the original Jewish creators! Specially taking how USA has fallen under Trump. It's a ship of salt on a fresh open wound!
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XX01011000 APR 28 2017 5AM
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I don't think you've considered what this story actually represents or why it exists in the first place. Have you read it or have you just read about it? First hand experience and knowledge is not the same as third party experience and knowledge. It is the difference between knowing and understanding the nuances of every aspect involved regarding a subject versus knowing the basic bullet points or brief descriptions of a subject. Knowing something in principle or in concept is not the same as knowing something in its entirety or in its reality. Big difference there. From what you said in your comment, I'm willing to guess that you haven't actually read Captain America Steve Rogers first hand and you only know the very minimal basics of the story like general plot points or general concepts rather than anything specific and detailed. I think you only see the subject in basic terms or in a certain simple manner that is superficial but you think that you have a deeper knowledge of it than you actually do. It's deeper than you give it credit. If you aren't willing to read Captain America Steve Rogers, maybe you should at least read this instead to get a different perspective regarding the importance of telling stories of this nature:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/04/23/steve-rogers-the-corruption-of-an-american-symbol
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Mouser92 APR 25 2017 8PM
so, he was never truly a hydra person...his life story was re-written to make him so, right? does captain know that? does anyone for that matter know that?
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simple_man815 APR 25 2017 9PM
@Mouser92 Red Skull knew, but Cap killed him, Bucky knows.
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Reverend_Dust APR 26 2017 6PM
@simple_man815 @Mouser92 ...and Zemo killed Bucky.
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DaRealHercules APR 25 2017 6PM
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krrl MAY 8 2017 11AM
@DaRealHercules I'm down with the story arc, but this is hilarious
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Parker_Peters APR 25 2017 5PM
Would have been a good idea 8 years ago but today, it just feels like a pebble in a patch of stones. It's not standing out because of all the other mad things going on in their universe.
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whatthehellpeople APR 25 2017 6PM
@Parker_Peters Well, that's exactly why in the plot Hydra Cap is launching his attack now : because so much happened and the heroes are divided and weakened
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Parker_Peters APR 25 2017 6PM
@whatthehellpeople @Parker_Peters True but I think the story would have been better if this was the most noticeable change happening in the MU at the time.
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CREATORS NICK SPENCER
Nick Spencer
NICK SPENCER
Nick Spencer is a London-based comics writer, best known for his creator-owned Image titles like the genre-bending mystery series MORNING GLORIES, the gory & gritty crime procedural BEDLAM, and the high concept sci-fi thriller THE INFINITE VACATION-- as well as his work at Marvel and DC Comics on Secret Avengers, Superior Foes Of Spider-Man, Cloak & Dagger, Thunder Agents, Jimmy Olsen, and Avengers World. He also collaborated with Robert Kirkman on the inaugural arc of THIEF OF THIEVES at Image, and with Jonathan Hickman on Avengers.
CREATOR OF:
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Morning Glories
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T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents: Vol. 1
Publishers Weekly.
258.51 (Dec. 19, 2011): p39.
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Full Text:
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents: Vol. 1
Nick Spencer, CAFU, et al. DC, $24.99 (256p) ISBN 978-1-4012-3254-2
In this relaunch of a Silver Age superhero comic, two young agents, Colleen Franklin and Toby Henston, are
assembling a new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. (The Higher United Nations Defense Enforcement Reserves, in case you were
wondering) team after losing almost all the members of the last one. If the prospects accept, they will receive
superhuman abilities, but they will also face debilitating physical side effects and all but certain death. As a result, the
chosen few are desperate men whose need to redeem themselves is stronger than their fear of death. Creative team
Spencer and CAFU throw the reader into the middle of several situations at the start of this volume, and then flash
forward and backward throughout the narrative, from the original mission in which teammate Raven was lost to
Colleen's and Toby's recruitment pitches to their prospects, all the way back to the original 1960s T.H.U.N.D.E.R.
team. The main narrative, drawn by CAFU, is finely detailed, almost delicate at times, but still capable of dynamic
action sequences, while the backstories are drawn by other artists, with varying degrees of success. The lack of a
continuous narrative gives the development of characters and relationships a fragmented feel, but the plot twists are
satisfying. (Dec.)
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Edition)
"T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents: Vol. 1." Publishers Weekly, 19 Dec. 2011, p. 39. General OneFile, go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?
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Morning Glories, v.1
Candice Mack
Booklist.
107.19-20 (June 1, 2011): p51.
COPYRIGHT 2011 American Library Association
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Morning Glories, v.1.
By Nick Spencer. Illus. by Joe Eisma.
2011. 192p. Image, paper, $9.99 (9781607063070). 741.5. Gr. 8-12.
Welcome to Morning Glory Academy, a prestigious private school that gives new meaning to the term alternative
education. Six students who share the same birthday meet when they begin attending the school for gifted youngsters.
As in the John Hughes films that inspired author Spencer, each teen represents an archetype: the jock, the flirt, the emo
kid, the nerd, the good girl, and the Chuck Bass-like pervy rich boy. It's also hinted that each of the new students has a
skill that has yet to be revealed. So what are they doing at Morning Glory prep? And why can't their parents remember
them when they call home? As tensions mount, their exams become more sinister, and the teens must decide who they
can trust among themselves, the staff, and the other students. The compelling character studies, mind games, and
action-packed sequences in this gorgeously inked mystery are sure to appeal to fans of the Runaways comics, the TV
show Lost, or the Hunger Games trilogy.--Candice Mack
Mack, Candice
Source Citation (MLA 8th
Edition)
Mack, Candice. "Morning Glories, v.1." Booklist, 1 June 2011, p. 51+. General OneFile, go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?
p=ITOF&sw=w&u=schlager&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA259749569&it=r&asid=aba4213dd6ebd0471dbc127eee227da9.
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The Fix, Vol. 1: Where Beagles Dare
Publishers Weekly.
263.41 (Oct. 10, 2016): p65.
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Full Text:
* The Fix, Vol. 1: Where Beagles Dare
Nick Spencer and Steve Lieber. Image, $9.99 trade paper (128p) ISBN 978-1-63215-912-0
[ILLUSTRATION OMITTED]
Crooked cops Roy and Mac have a problem: they're swimming in debt to mob kingpin Josh, and with no money
coming in from their shady deals, they only have one way to get back in Josh's good graces--slip some contraband
through LAX past Pretzels, the LAPD's finest drug-sniffing dog. Writer Spencer (Morning Glories) eschews the more
extreme, bizarre mystery plots of his other work for a more grounded, darkly comic tale. There's still gore and some
inappropriate humor, but Spencer has compelling points to make about fame, corruption, and love. Artist Lieber
(Whiteout) brings Spencer's script to vibrant life with hilariously expressive characterization and sharp action that
works for both quiet and loud scenes; Lieber also gets an assist from colorist Ryan Hill and letterer-Nic J. Shaw, whose
subtle contributions help elevate a project that could easily have become a middling caper into one of the funniest--and
most satisfying--crime books of the year. (Sept.)
Source Citation (MLA 8th
Edition)
"The Fix, Vol. 1: Where Beagles Dare." Publishers Weekly, 10 Oct. 2016, p. 65. General OneFile,
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Morning Glories Deluxe Edition
Publishers Weekly.
259.2 (Jan. 9, 2012): p38.
COPYRIGHT 2012 PWxyz, LLC
http://www.publishersweekly.com/
Full Text:
Morning Glories Deluxe Edition
Hick Spencer and Joe Eisma. Image, $39.99 (352p) ISBN 978-1-60706-430-5
Owing debts to television shows like Lost and The Prisoner, as well as The X-Men, this tale is much more than the sum
of its parts. The list of influences hints at what's to come, but Spencer manages to put it together in unexpected ways. A
group of teens are hand-picked for an elite private boarding school that turns out to be more of a nightmare, with a
mysterious agenda, a sinister faculty, unexplained deaths, and other scattered weirdness. Each character is fleshed out
through flashbacks--the Lost influence is strong here--that also examine motivations and mysteries. The one challenge
to enjoyment is the constant stream of crass sexual barbs spewing out of Ike, the sociopathic rich brat. Disruptive to the
flow and tone of the story, this onslaught of sexual harassment feels overdone and eventually becomes a burden. If its
point is to provide female characters with an object of retaliation to prove their strengths, it's unnecessary given events
in the actual plot that are more than suited for the purpose. Eisma's art functions mainly as a stand-in for television
cameras and living actors. (Dec.)
Source Citation (MLA 8th
Edition)
"Morning Glories Deluxe Edition." Publishers Weekly, 9 Jan. 2012, p. 38. General OneFile, go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?
p=ITOF&sw=w&u=schlager&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA277520609&it=r&asid=22147feeb1a11f06d5d623e72353d702.
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Morning Glories, v.2
Candice Mack
Booklist.
108.9-10 (Jan. 1, 2012): p79.
COPYRIGHT 2012 American Library Association
http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/offices/publishing/booklist_publications/booklist/booklist.cfm
Full Text:
Morning Glories, v.2.
By Nick Spencer. Illus. by Joe Eisma.
2011. 168p. Image, paper, $12.99 (9781607064077). 741.5. Gr. 9-12.
In this second volume, the six newest students at Morning Glory Academy continue to fight for survival while trying to
figure out who they can trust among the staff and their fellow students. Meanwhile, snippets of their pasts are revealed
in flashbacks but only serve to bring about more questions than answers. Who is Abraham? Who is Lara Hodge? And
will what they know help or hinder the six newest Glories and their plans for escape? With great art, snappy dialogue,
tight plotting, and deep mystery, Spencer and Eisma's series continues to intrigue.--Candice Mack
Mack, Candice
Source Citation (MLA 8th
Edition)
Mack, Candice. "Morning Glories, v.2." Booklist, 1 Jan. 2012, p. 79. General OneFile, go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?
p=ITOF&sw=w&u=schlager&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA279137513&it=r&asid=fc5677ec6e8f6dbfcdbbfc7c3130a6af.
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